{"id":8671,"date":"2011-10-13T08:40:48","date_gmt":"2011-10-13T13:40:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.tendenci.com\/?p=8671"},"modified":"2019-09-09T19:28:54","modified_gmt":"2019-09-10T00:28:54","slug":"drupal-and-wordpress-at-schipulcon-one-stage-one-open-source-love","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.tendenci.com\/drupal-and-wordpress-at-schipulcon-one-stage-one-open-source-love\/","title":{"rendered":"Drupal and WordPress at SchipulCon:  One Stage, One Open Source Love"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JY4MEHROmrs\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ojfpnxLJJfM\">Open Source Discussion with the Founders of Drupal and WordPress<\/a> from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tendenci.com\">Schipul &#8211; The Web Marketing Co.<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>&#8220;People being told what to do and working for money are never going to match people working for passion and a community.&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n~Matt Mullenweg<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>&#8220;With every cell in my body, I believe that Open Source is the way forward. \u00a0Especially when it comes to websites, but also beyond just websites.&#8221;<br \/>\n<\/em>~Dries Buytaert<\/p>\n<p><strong>We were beyond honored to host <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drupal.org\">Drupal<\/a> founder <a href=\"https:\/\/www.buytaert.net\/\">Dries Buytaert<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wordpress.org\/\">WordPress<\/a> founder <a href=\"https:\/\/ma.tt\">Matt Mullenweg<\/a> at our <a href=\"https:\/\/events.tendenci.com\">SchipulCon 2011 event<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Guided by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tendenci.com\/staff\/david-stagg\">David Stagg<\/a>, the open source conversation survived <del>epic microphone turmoil<\/del> \u00a0years of open source competitiveness to showcase the true brilliance and passion of these open source leaders.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.tendenci.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Dries_Matt1-575x383.jpg?ssl=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-8704 size-medium\" title=\"Dries Buytaert and Matt Mullenweg share the SchipulCon stage\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.tendenci.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Dries_Matt1-575x383.jpg?resize=525%2C350&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Dries Buytaert and Matt Mullenweg share the SchipulCon stage\" width=\"525\" height=\"350\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Around Designers vs Developers Flocking to WordPress and Drupal (Respectively)<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Matt:<\/strong> \u00a0&#8220;I learned a ton about code and programming and back end systems&#8230; mainly because I had sort of a vision of something that I wanted a user to realize&#8230;. and so we made certain design choices from a technical view that to me are more intuitive.<\/p>\n<p>There were two big pressures early in WordPress&#8217; life: \u00a01) everyone wanted us to adopt a templating system because everyone at the time had one \u00a0and 2) they wanted us to go a strict object oriented model. \u00a0So you could extend everything WordPress does through classes essentially.<\/p>\n<p>We took an action oriented plug-in approach&#8230; which is perhaps not as correct from a programmer&#8217;s point of view, but easier for beginner users.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dries: \u00a0&#8220;<\/strong>When I started Drupal, I was in college to get a computer science degree &#8211; almost an engineer. \u00a0So I wasn&#8217;t too concerned about user experience &#8211; more obsessed with the architecture and the right APIs and all of these things.<\/p>\n<p>When I finally released Drupal as open source, it really attracted an audience of developers. \u00a0The initial community was a developer community and began to expand to more and more developers. \u00a0That emphasis on architecture was reinforced. \u00a0 [We&#8217;re] trying to change that and it&#8217;s slowly starting to work &#8211; it&#8217;s very much historical.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>&gt;&gt;&gt; Cool side notes:<\/strong> \u00a0Matt has been a Drupal member for 8 years and one week. \u00a0His interests on his profile include typography and simplicity (the only person to include this in their profile). \u00a0Years back, \u00a0Matt gave a credit to Drupal and reminded Dries that he had some code in WordPress very early on &#8212; time for Matt to contribute to Drupal!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.tendenci.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/wordpressdrupalchat.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-8742\" title=\"Wordpress and Drupal at SchipulCon\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.tendenci.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/wordpressdrupalchat-575x383.jpg?resize=525%2C350&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Wordpress and Drupal at SchipulCon\" width=\"525\" height=\"350\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 15px; 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